154: Roya Mahboob - Rule Breakers

In this conversation between John Pinna and Roya Mahboob, they discuss the stark contrast between Afghanistan's "golden age" of women's advancement from 2001-2021 and the current Taliban regime's gender apartheid policies. Mahboob details how her organization, Digital Citizen Fund, has shifted from establishing technology centers and teaching digital literacy to supporting underground education networks since the Taliban takeover. They explore the upcoming film "Rule Breakers," which chronicles Mahboob's journey and the Afghan girls robotics team, highlighting Muslim women's capabilities in STEM fields. Despite the dire current situation, Mahboob expresses hope, noting that unlike the Taliban's previous rule in 1996, today's younger population has experienced freedom and retains access to information through technology. She emphasizes that education remains the key to preventing extremism, and calls for international pressure on the Taliban alongside practical support for Afghan women's remote learning opportunities.

Roya Mahboob is an Afghan tech entrepreneur and the founder of Citadel Software, a software development company based in Herat. In addition to being one of Afghanistan’s first female tech CEOs, Mahboob founded the Digital Citizen Fund, a nonprofit that aims to increase women’s technological literacy and provide employment and educational opportunities for girls in Afghanistan. Mahboob was named one of TIME’s 100 Most Influential People in the World in 2013 for her innovative initiatives to expand computer education. She has created nine IT centers for girls in high schools across Afghanistan and plans to expand her programs to 40 schools, ultimately reaching more than 160,000 female students. Mahboob has also taken her model beyond Afghanistan to schools in Bangladesh, India, Pakistan, and Nepal. After facing death threats from the Taliban and others for her work, Mahboob left the country in 2013 and spent two years working remotely before returning to Afghanistan in 2016. She founded the Afghan Girls Robotics Team, also known as the Afghan Dreamers, an all-girl robotics team. She was recognized as an Asia Game Changer in 2019 and received the Doha Forum Award in 2022. Additionally, Mahboob has been honored with the Lantos Human Rights Awards and the Presidential Leadership Scholarship. The film Rule Breakers release this March 7th, which is based on Roya's experience with the Afghan Girls Robotics Team.